/>Skip to main contentclockmenumore-arrownoyesHorizontal - WhiteBig Blue Viewa New York Giants communityLog In or Sign UpLog InSign UpFanpostsFanshotsSectionsLibraryGiantsOddsAboutMastheadCommunity GuidelinesStubHubMoreAll 322 blogs on Horizontal - WhiteFanposts Fanshots Sections New York Giants NewsGiants Training Camp 2016Giants vs. Eagles 2015 Youth Harry Carson Jerseys , Week 17Filed under:New York Giants News2019 NFL DraftWhy did the Giants draft Oshane Ximines?New,203commentsDave Gettleman — “We need pass rush help”EDTShareTweetShareShareWhy did the Giants draft Oshane Ximines?Oshane Ximines (7) at the Senior Bowl.John David Mercer-USA TODAY SportsThe answer to the question in the headline — “Why did the Giants draft Oshane Ximines?” — is really a simple one. The Giants needed pass rush help off the edge, and they felt Ximines could provide it.The Giants were 30th in the NFL in sacks last season. They traded their best EDGE player in 2018, Olivier Vernon, to the Cleveland Browns. Connor Barwin, Kerry Wynn, Josh Mauro and Mario Edwards are no longer Giants. Ximines racked up 12 sacks, 18.5 tackles for loss and 4 forced fumbles playing for Old Dominion last season.“We need pass rush help,” Gettleman said. “We feel we have really addressed it with Dexter Lawrence and this kid. We got inside pass rush help and we got outside pass rush help. The quicker you get to the passer, the less time corners have to cover and good stuff happens.” Why the 6-foot-3, 253-pound Ximines rather than any of the other available EDGE players? GM Dave Gettleman and coach Pat Shurmur explained the pick shortly after it was made.“Oshane Ximines, ‘X-Man’ – he’s a scheme fit for us. He’s a guy that’s played a lot of football – 48 starts, has been very productive, many sacks. He’s got a good first step. He’s a good edge player. I think he’s going to be a real good fit for our defense in base Harry Carson Jerseys Stitched , as well as in nickel,” Shurmur said. “Not to mention, as good a player as he is, as productive as he is, he’s an even better person. He’s going to be another real good scheme fit for our locker room. I called him to tell him we were going to draft him, and he quickly said hello and dropped the phone. He’s probably as excited a player to hear that he was going to be a New York Football Giant as anybody that I’ve called in the last couple years.”The Giants did not have a pick in Round 2 after their trade up to No. 30 in Round 1 to select cornerback Deandre Baker. They felt like they got a second-round player in Ximines, though, as Gettleman said the Giants “had a second round value on him, the bottom of the second.”The Giants considered moving up for Ximines“As the board was breaking, we started talking with about 14 or 15 picks left,” Gettleman said. “Bottom line is, we were thinking about trading up, but I said no, we’ll hold our water because I didn’t want to give up our four (fourth-round pick) or two fives (fifth-round pick) for tomorrow Youth Lawrence Taylor Jerseys , because of what our board looks like. So, he was a target for sure.”Gettleman said the Giants seriously considered moving up about a half-dozen spots before their 95th pick.“We were at No. 95, and we were thinking six could get us up to No. 90, get us up five spots, but let’s just hold our water for now, and I’m glad we did,” he said.What will Ximines’ role be?Gettleman made it clear that the Giants believe Ximines is “not a designated pass rusher. He’s a legit three-down player.”Shurmur said that Ximines has the versatility to play in both odd and even fronts?“He’s an edge player for us, so he would play the outside ‘backer spot for us when we are five on the line,” he said. “We can take the nose out and he’s a pass rusher in a four-man front. He can be a three-down player.”A little Osi?Ximines forced 11 fumbles over the past three seasons. A speed-rushing defensive end who forces fumbles? Of course he drew comparisons to former Giants great Osi Umenyiora.“He has some stuff. As Pat said, the forcing of the fumbles has a lot to do with length and arm length and a knack, which he has,” Gettleman said. “He’s got some things he’s gotta polish up before we put him in that category. To answer your question, the kid really [has] legitimate pass rush ability.”Small school transitionThe Giants aren’t worried about Ximines’ ability to handle the transition to a much higher level of competition.“The litmus test is he went to Old Dominion, he went to ODU. It’s a Division I program Lawrence Taylor Jerseys Stitched , but obviously it’s not a Power Five. He’s at Old Dominion, so you say to yourself, would this kid start in the ACC? Could he possibly start in the SEC? You think about those things, and he can,” Gettleman said. “The interesting thing about him is because he’s played so much and the kind of kid he is, as Pat said, he has legitimate counter pass rushing ability, counter pass rushing moves. “Most of the kids coming out of college have their move when they come off the ball, or they come of the ball they know what they want to do, and if the tackle thwarts them, they don’t know what to do. They’re not power rushers, they get stuck. Oshane can counter punch, which is what made (Broncos LB Bradley) Chubb so special last year.” Giants giving ex-SU quarterback a look at tight end" />Skip to main contentclockmenumore-arrownoyesHorizontal - WhiteBig Blue Viewa New York Giants communityLog In or Sign UpLog InSign UpFanpostsFanshotsSectionsLibraryGiantsOddsAboutMastheadCommunity GuidelinesStubHubMoreAll 322 blogs on Horizontal - WhiteFanposts Fanshots Sections New York Giants NewsGiants Training Camp 2016Giants vs. Eagles 2015, Week 17Filed under:New York Giants NewsGiants’ 90-man roster: Eric Dungey trying to make transition to hybrid roleNew Womens Phil Simms Jersey ,89commentsGiants giving ex-SU quarterback a look at tight endEDTShareTweetShareShareGiants’ 90-man roster: Eric Dungey trying to make transition to hybrid roleEric DungeyPhoto by Joe Robbins/Getty ImagesThe NFL is often called a copycat league. Someone comes up with an idea — a play, a scheme, a formation, a style — that works and other teams try to implement their own versions. Thus, the success of the New Orleans Saints in taking an athletic college quarterback, Taysom Hill, and turning him into a multi-faceted offensive weapon who can be used running, receiving and throwing is something other teams would like to duplicate.The New York Giants, with undrafted former Syracuse quarterback Eric Dungey in the hybrid role, are one of the teams trying to find their own version of Hill. Let’s look closer at Dungey as we continue profiling the 90 players the Giants will bring to training camp.The basicsHeight: 6-foot-3Weight: 220Age: 22Position: QB/TEExperience: 0How he got hereIn a year considered to be a down one for the overall quarterback class, Dungey was not one of the 11 quarterbacks deemed draft-worthy by NFL teams. The Giants, though, wanted Dungey badly enough that head coach Pat Shurmur got on the phone to try and entice him to choose the Giants.“He was a key guy, a guy that we targeted Harry Carson Jersey ,” Shurmur said.The pitch worked:For what it’s worth, here is a statistical comparison of the college careers of Dungey and Hill.Passing Dungey Year School G Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate201520162017*2018Career Provided by CFB at Sports ReferenceHillYear School G Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate*2012*2013*2014*2015*2016Career Provided by CFB at Sports ReferenceRushingDungeyYear School G Att Yds Avg TD201520162017*2018Career Provided by CFB at Sports ReferenceHillYear School G Att Yds Avg TD*2012*2013*2014*2015*2016Career Provided by CFB at Sports Reference2019 outlook So, now the question is can Dungey make the transition?“He is a very accomplished quarterback and made a lot of plays with his feet,” Shurmur said. “We will see. I think he is a good football player. Usually there is a place on the field for good football players. We will see what happens.”At just 220 pounds and never having blocked before, a traditional tight end role is likely out of the question for Dungey. To be honest, it’s probably unrealistic to expect Dungey to push for a spot on the 53-man roster initially. Hill took a full year in New Orleans to learn the role, and was an impact player in his second season.Perhaps that should be the template for Dungey. If he shows promise in the hybrid role, a practice squad spot in 2019 would seem logical as he learns the finer points of what the Giants are asking him to do.
